Refusing Entries and Stationary Rules/Previously Scored Trees
Posted on 01/12/2006 in The Coonhound Advisor.
Q: Our club has been involved in a situation where a guy that comes to our club events always seems to make problems on the cast. Some of the hunters do not like to draw him and have to put up with his antics all night. It has gotten to the point where some guys just simply withdraw their dog without even going to the woods if they draw him. We have on a few occasions put a non-hunting judge on this guy but it doesn’t seem to stop him from questioning every call that is made that doesn’t suit him. Our club feels that we need to do something about this guy before we start loosing entries because of this problem. We hate to have to tell anyone they can’t hunt at our club but feel we have no choice. What is the best way for our club to handle this situation? JR/AL
A: Most of us go to the local club event to listen to our huntin’ buddies tell exaggerated stories about that young dog out of ‘ole Rooster and Katie that is really turning the crank, eat some club burgers and fries and then enter in the hunt hoping to maybe get lucky and get another cast win on Little Joe. At least you hope you have a good hunt and Little Joe won’t embarrass you too bad. The last thing you want is to draw someone on your cast that tends to stir up all kinds of problems and questions every little thing that happens in the hunt.
There are a few different ways for clubs to handle problem individuals. One way would be to appoint a non-hunting judge on the cast. Another option the club has is to refuse the individuals entry. Obviously, you have tried a non-hunting judge without eliminating the problem. It sounds like you have no other options other than to refuse the individuals entry.
The right to refuse entry is a good option for a club to exercise if needed. Not only does it show that the club will not tolerate participants who want to consistently stir up trouble but it also shows other participants that the club will do something about individuals that do so. Participants will continue to come to your club events if they know the club does everything they can to insure everyone gets treated fairly. Clubs that do nothing about problem individuals will more than likely see a drop in entries at their events.
It is the local club management that has the right to refuse entry. It is not the decision of the Master of Hounds unless an individual appears to be under the influence of alcohol or un-prescribed drugs.
Whenever a club makes the decision to deny someone’s entry, we recommend the following:
- Send a letter to the individual prior to your next event advising them that their entry will be refused and why. Give the individual a time frame as to how long their entry will be refused. We suggest maybe two or three of your next events. Let the individual know that they are welcome to participate at your club after the time is up but will be placed on probation for the next year.
- Send UKC a copy of the letter that was sent to the individual to be placed in your club file. (If the individual calls our office complaining about his refused entry at your club we can pull the letter from your club file and see why it was refused.)
- If the club has anymore unnecessary problems out of the individual during their probationary period, then we suggest to taking further action and ban them from the club indefinitely.
If it becomes necessary for any club to exercise this right we encourage you to do so if it is the only option. It will send a message to participants who enter your club events that problem individuals and dogs will not be tolerated.
Stationary Rule / Previously Scored Trees
Q: Four dogs on a cast are treed. After scoring the tree the dogs are led a little distance away and released again. One dog opens and is declared struck in the vicinity of the tree that had previously been scored. The handler says he thinks the dog is on the same tree. The judge says he is not sure if it’s the same tree so he starts the stationary rule. Five minutes elapses. The handler has not declared the dog treed. The cast finds the dog is in fact on the same tree that had been scored previously. How should the dog be scored? MS / IN
A: According to rule 5(e) No points will be awarded when dogs return to a tree that had previously been scored and cast may go to tree without dogs being declared treed, if majority of cast agree, when hunting Judges are used.
Whenever the stationary has been applied and the dog is not declared treed, the dog may not be scratched if it is found on a tree that has been previously scored. This interpretation is consistent with 5(e) which states that a dog does not have to be declared treed. In the scenario described, rule 5(h) would apply and the strike points are deleted.